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Jugendberufsagenturen und ein weiteres Experiment: Friendica als Midi-Blog

1.) Vermutlich werde ich hier wenn, dann eher bloggerische Selbstgespräche führen, weil fast alle meine 3 Follower mir bis auf einen sowieso auch bei Quitter folgen (fast alle von 3 sind also 2).

2.) Also mein heutiges Selbstgespräch handelt von Jugendberufsagenturen, und was die Jobcenter so mit Jugendlichen machen, und zwar deswegen, weil ich für Twitter für jemanden nen Haufen Links dazu zusammengesammelt habe, und die sammel ich hier einfach nur nochmal zusammen, weil das alles auf Twitter so schnell nach hinten rutscht.

a) Jugenberufsagenturen

Die gibt es schon z.B. in Hamburg und Bremen, und das Ziel ist, daß die Arbeitspolizei ALLE Jugendlichen unter ihre autoritäre Fuchtel bekommt und nicht nur diejenigen, die oder deren Eltern HartzIV beziehen.

Das Thema Arbeitslosigkeit knallt inzwischen nicht mehr so, weil es gelun... mehr anzeigen
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A profound difference between Friendica and GNU Social: Following

(This is in english so more people can have access.)
I'm very new to Friendica, and I never used Facebook. I do use GNU Social, I use Twitter a lot, and I do even sometimes use Pinterest.

I realized only now, that all networks I have used until now have one thing in common: They let you follow people whithout their approval and whithout them following you back, and you can mention anyone, regardless of whether they follow you or you them. You can also comment on anything someone else posts, in the case of federated networks limited by what your own instance has "seen", but not limited by who follows whom.

If I do not want someone following or mentioning me, or commenting on my posts, I can mute or block them.

I don't have to have their posts in my timeline in order for them to have mine in their timelines.

If I'm interested in the subject they post about, but they are not interested in my favourite gripe, or if I speak the language they post in, but they don't speak the language I post in, they don't have to have my posts in their timeline in order for... mehr anzeigen
english
Different networks deal with this differently. But you've made a few observations that I don't believe are correct. Yes, you can follow anybody and they don't have to approve. On Friendica or GNU-Social. On Friendica the difference is that if you don't approve, they can only view your posts by visiting your profile page. They won't see your posts on their network stream page because you haven't agreed to send your posts to them. Your approval of the connection is required before they will receive your posts. This is different than GNU-social where you don't need any permission at all to follow somebody and see all their posts.

There are some interesting conflicts which arise because of the way that different networks interpret these actions. We've tried to balance them in order to provide maximum privacy for those who desire it.

And in the case of mentions, sure you can mention anybody at any time. But this doesn't do anything if you aren't connected. Really it doesn't do anything but create a link in the post. If you're connected and you're amongst the message recipien... mehr anzeigen
I'm not sure if i got the technical stuff wrong or just the wording. Because what's left of following if I do not see the posts of the followed in my timeline?

And what's left of mentioning if the person I mentioned is not notified of the mention? After all, I can make a link by other means, too, eiter to a profile or a specific post.

And about commenting: If people want to comment on my wordpress blog, they don't need to have their own account anywhere.
If people want to comment on Twitter, they need their own Twitter account and nothing else. If people want to comment on GNU Social, they need an account and they or someone from their instance must follow me.

Now on Friendica, they need an account, must follow me, *and* I must follow them back, otherwise they will not be able to comment.

And since I'm posting publicly, everyone can see this, but not comment. If I wanted to communicate privately, I wouldn't do it here in the first place.

I have probably a different mindset: A communication is either private, or it isn't.
We actually don't often call it "following", usually only when comparing to other social networking systems where that is the only operation. We call it "connecting".

In Friendica you must be connected somehow to communicate with somebody. My later project (hubzilla) relaxes this requirement a bit and let's you choose pretty much what you wish to allow to any particular viewer and emulate many of the other existing systems. But the premise is that you are in complete control of who can post stuff on your wall and who can comment on your stuff and even what you see in your stream. This is decentralised. There is nobody you can complain to if you get undesired interactions, so this is the way it has to be.

Imagine you're a particularly attractive female for a minute. Every dude with a pecker is trying to shag you. Some get really nasty if you reject them and start escalating into harrassment. This is exactly the type of situation this network was created to avoid, but without being able to say "hey Facebook - do something about this person". There is no "hey Facebook" her... mehr anzeigen
You can be sure that spamming and attractive females occur on other networks as well.

Also, I already mentioned blocking and muting.

You said:
"This is decentralised. There is nobody you can complain to if you get undesired interactions, so this is the way it has to be."

In practice, you can complain on Twitter as much as you like with no effect. On GNU Social, however, you probably know who the admin of your instance is, and if something can really not be solved by blocking, it is far easier to contact them on a distributed network. You may even be the admin yourself ;-)

Then you/ they can delete an account or block another instance completely, and as far as I have gathered, there are several other possibilities.

It is not like Spam is not dealt with on GNU Social, and it does not seem quite fair to make it look like the only way to do it is like Friendica does it.

However, I think we do not need to find out which way is "better", at least I don't have suc... mehr anzeigen

Anruf vom Jobcenter und ein Experiment in Föderation

.1.) In meinem GNU Social-Stream taucht ein Post auf, in dem eine @Birne Helene fragt, was sie von einem Anruf halten soll, den sie vom Jobcenter erhalten hat.
Dazu fällt mir was ein, und ich würde darauf antworten.

Wie sich herausstellt, wurde der ursprüngliche Post auf Diaspora geschrieben

Dann wurde der Post auf Friendica verlinkt oder repostet

und dieses Posting ist auf GNU Social in meine Timeline geraten, weil jemand es der dortigen !hartziv-Gruppe zugeordnet hat.

Jetzt kann man sich meines Wissens zwar zwischen den verschiedenen föderierten Netzwerken gegenseitig folgen, aber nicht antworten.

Ich kann also zwar hier eine Antwort schreiben, danach muß ic... mehr anzeigen
Utzer Friendica
Cool, jetzt geht es. ;-)

Facepalm-Emoji

Weil ich gerade einen der ganz neuen Unicode-Emojis auf einer anderen Friendica-Instanz sehe: Gleich mal ausprobieren, welche hier funktionieren :D

😴👼👹🙈🙉🙊🤦🤷🖤👶🏿🖕🏾

In diesem Kommentar ist der Facepalm-Emoji:
https://ennibook.de/display/3661f1d918577cf809c872d156947441
Aaaa-ha: Smileys sind hier nicht in Unicode. Es müßte also so gehen:
:facepalm:

http://macgirvin.com/smilies
Unicode emojis are supported as smileys in hubzilla. The facepalm emoji is new and isn't supported yet in the major emoji libraries, but we've supported it as an img smiley for several years.

Hallo allerseits!

Ich schau mir das hier mal an.
Der Plan ist erstmal, alle paar Tage vorbeizuschauen und jedenfalls Bescheid zu sagen, wenn ich was interessantes gebloggt habe (meist auf jobcenteraktivistin.wordpress.com).
Und dann bin ich mal gespannt, was hier weiter passiert.

Das bin ich:

YouTube: Erwerbslose droht mit Gewaltlosigkeit (Jobcenter Aktivistin)



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