@tijagi @hakui @kfist @eidon Haha, sadly currently my bees are relegated to a wood-lot... Potentially a good thing if they survive, as 'forest-honey' fetches a premium, but there is less nectar yield to be had. Obama-est as in 'Hope' bcuz he wuz 'president hope-n-change'
I think you will find most everything I do is obsolete nowadays
Eeh, I meant maybe that’s still in common use in Canada – if I remember correctly, where do you live. I’ve just remember that from Cambridge dictionary (on the pic), but it dictates rules for the UK, not Canada. Also its soft language: ‘commonly’, ‘normally’ etc. doesn’t inspire confidence. I liked English, when it was strict and resolute, now it’s ‘single quotes in double quotes or double quotes inside single quotes’ – no order. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/881692
If a sentence comprising of two other sentences is short, it would be read easier with a simple comma.
Long sentences are hard to read in general, and if you stick several loosely related clauses into one, you’d better separate them for the reader’s sake. Yes there still are cases, where you can feel that ‘halftone’ of a sentence partly related, but telling its own story – I am familiar with those yet from my native language, which quite possibly has adopted the semicolon from the Brits – but to write this way requires a certain condition between clauses and writer’s skill to see it, implement it and keep the whole clause legible.
@tijagi @hakui @phildobangnz @eidon The way that colloquial language structures have changed over the past century means that a sentence with a semicolon is usually better and more easily understandable/readable if the sentence is split into two, or otherwise split using commas. What I've noticed in literature is that around the 90s commas also started becoming "breathing points" indicating that the reader should take a short break there, as if they were breathing in while reading it aloud. I know that this mannerism shines through in my written works, after editing hundreds of pages of my own writing. It forces sentences to flow better at the cost of being less technically correct.
@tijagi @hakui @phildobangnz @eidon Usage of commas to stylistically break up sentences internally in order to make them flow more smoothly than simply having one large run-on sentence that conveys the same information and may have an if-then-because structure.
@kfist @hakui @phildobangnz @eidon And why do you think, that it’s a mannerism? I mean, what guidelines make you think that? As far as I know, there isn’t any reference book on some standardised English. Though I would want to have it.
@tijagi @hakui @phildobangnz @eidon There's no reference book on standardized English that I know of, mostly because English is so varied that it'd be difficult to retain any sort of legitimacy. Spanish, French, and Japanese get away with it, for example, because the way those languages spread and proliferate was very centralized.
@awg @hakui @tijagi @kfist @eidon only gaylords use style manuals by academic institutions obvz. the best way to work on your prose is to go do other shit and watch ppl die in Spain like Hemingway, or w.e
@phildobangnz @tijagi @kfist @hakui @eidon wasn't endorsing it myself. and I think @kfist 's argument about variation is right on. but it's the closest I've seen to a "standard" that many burger publishing houses abide by even if they use other guidelines.
@awg @hakui @tijagi @kfist @eidon I think you can't rlly take publishing houses at their word generally though... I've yet to see one that doesn't explicitly say 'we do not accept unsolicited manuscripts', not to mention they will still in some cases publish them... So i would just write my own way, and they can either edit it to their standards or accept it n kiss my ass. not that anyone is offering to publish anything I have written, naturally.
@phildobangnz @tijagi @kfist @hakui @eidon most publishers I'm familiar with have some kind of "house style", and will edit your work accordingly. otoh most academic journals I'm familiar with will probably kick your paper back and ask you to make the changes for them before they'll accept it.
@eidon @hakui @tijagi @kfist @awg lol jebus; it's like all the GS users besides me are academics, practically! I like that there are things I can learn from you; dayum errybody here an academic besides me!? Well except hakui obvz, since she's proly a spy after all
Putin must see far beyond to start investing in that region now, though it’s not like Russia could afford passageways without ice breakers in the near 100–300 years, as these maps show.
It makes me chuckle, but what, if his hopes are partly based in hurka durka piracy flourishing in the Indian sea, so that China would prefer to use railcars across Siberia or shipping over the Arctic to deliver goods into Europe. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/218897
@phildobangnz @kfist @hakui @eidon I know about it, moreover, I’ve read it. Most of what’s said there is logical, but for some reason I considered the book obsolete. I thought that the authors died before WWII.
@kfist @hakui @eidon Me too, but the only way I see so far is having open 24/7 sites like wiktionary, cambridge dictionary and context reverso.
Also I desperately seek for books where correct and incorrect wording would be present like in Nora Gal’s book. So far I got my eyes only on Strunk’s ‘The elements of style’ – but it’s on 75% a school book for six graders telling where to put commas and such (what do they teach in schools then w). Today I got to know about ‘Writing that works’ by Roman and Raphaelson, but it’s nowhere to be found so far. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/871079